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Sundown Audio SA-6.5M v4 - Midbass SetThe all new 2025 Sundown SA speaker series has been designed to make a statement. What statement, you may ask? That Sundown Audio can be just as serious about SQ as we are about SPL. Many people already know this but our subwoofers even the ones used for crushing demos have some of the lowest distortion on the market. We are now bringing our unique approach to the more dedicated Sound Quality market. Starting at the upper end of the frequency spectrum
The all-new 2025 Sundown SA speaker series has been designed to make a statement. What statement, you may ask? That Sundown Audio can be just as serious about SQ as we are about SPL. Many people already know this but our subwoofers – even the ones used for crushing demos – have some of the lowest distortion on the market. We are now bringing our unique approach to the more dedicated Sound Quality market.
Starting at the upper end of the frequency spectrum we have the SA-1T Tweeter. The SA-1T features a 25.5mm silk dome (total 38mm including surround) driven by a powerful neodymium motor structure. The dome features a compact, tuned back chamber which helps it to achieve its extremely low FS around 700hz. This gives you an enormous amount of flexibility in choosing the crossover. The tweeter can be used as a 2-way with the 6.5M or the 8M models or as part of a three way with either and the 3M model. In addition to the low FS and smooth response the SA-1T has a very high 92dB sensitivity so it doesn't take much power to get loud enough for just about anyone. The SA-1T is the 4th generation SA tweeter building on the success of the tweeter found in the SA Component sets over three generations.
Headed down the spectrum to the midrange we have the SA-3M. This "little" unit is something incredibly special and is a favorite project of lead product designer / founder Jacob Fuller. We really went all-out on this unit to address the "big 3" drivers of distortion. The SA-3M features 4.5mm of one-way linear excursion by 70% BL (with 8mm x-mech thanks to the custom tooled frame – so no bottoming out even on powerful dynamics) and over 6mm by CMS and LE definitions on Klippel. There is essentially NO risk of the driver reaching linearity limits in most applications. The beefy motor structure is a combination of ferrite and a neodymium pole cap magnet to help us reach 84.5dB sensitivity at 1-watt. There is a double LE treatment internal to the motor via both a copper pole sleeve and an aluminum magnet ID shorting ring allowing the SA-3M to play full-range to beyond 20khz (although, for several reasons, we do suggest using a tweeter for the top-end). On the bottom end they can be high-pass crossed over at 300hz effortlessly with 150-watts of power handling (thanks to the 28mm diameter, extra-long voice coil) or even lower if needed, with less power, due to the incredibly high linear stroke. The suspension system, surround and spider, of the SA-3M took over a year of FEA simulations and testing to reach perfection and is just as important as the motor to the resulting low distortion. We gave the suspension just as much attention as we would for a full blown high-stroke subwoofer. To finish off this masterpiece we tested several different types of woven carbon fiber cones & dust caps to achieve the best FR possible.
To finish off the 2025 SA speaker line we created the SA-6.5M and the SA-8M. Both of which can be used as a mid-bass or mid-range speaker depending on your application. Both drivers feature the same attention to detail as the 3M regarding the carbon cone and dust cap, surround, and spider. All of these parts were fully FEA simulated and Klippel verified.
The SA-6.5M features 5.9mm one-way linear excursion by 70% BL, 7mm by CMS, and 6.28mm by LE on Klippel. Thanks to the efficient motor venting and ample voice coil the power handling is rated for 110-watts full range / 200-watts with a 70hz HPF filter with a respectable 89dB sensitivity. As with the SA-1T this is a 4th generation SA speaker due to the SA component set from prior generations. For this iteration we optimized it further and also created a new custom-tooled frame. The revised frame is more aerodynamics and also allows for superior coil ventilation. As with most Sundown products you will find a thick magnet-ID Faraday ring as well.
Starting at the upper end of the frequency spectrum we have the SA-1T Tweeter. The SA-1T features a 25.5mm silk dome (total 38mm including surround) driven by a powerful neodymium motor structure. The dome features a compact, tuned back chamber which helps it to achieve its extremely low FS around 700hz. This gives you an enormous amount of flexibility in choosing the crossover. The tweeter can be used as a 2-way with the 6.5M or the 8M models or as part of a three way with either and the 3M model. In addition to the low FS and smooth response the SA-1T has a very high 92dB sensitivity so it doesn't take much power to get loud enough for just about anyone. The SA-1T is the 4th generation SA tweeter building on the success of the tweeter found in the SA Component sets over three generations.
Headed down the spectrum to the midrange we have the SA-3M. This "little" unit is something incredibly special and is a favorite project of lead product designer / founder Jacob Fuller. We really went all-out on this unit to address the "big 3" drivers of distortion. The SA-3M features 4.5mm of one-way linear excursion by 70% BL (with 8mm x-mech thanks to the custom tooled frame – so no bottoming out even on powerful dynamics) and over 6mm by CMS and LE definitions on Klippel. There is essentially NO risk of the driver reaching linearity limits in most applications. The beefy motor structure is a combination of ferrite and a neodymium pole cap magnet to help us reach 84.5dB sensitivity at 1-watt. There is a double LE treatment internal to the motor via both a copper pole sleeve and an aluminum magnet ID shorting ring allowing the SA-3M to play full-range to beyond 20khz (although, for several reasons, we do suggest using a tweeter for the top-end). On the bottom end they can be high-pass crossed over at 300hz effortlessly with 150-watts of power handling (thanks to the 28mm diameter, extra-long voice coil) or even lower if needed, with less power, due to the incredibly high linear stroke. The suspension system, surround and spider, of the SA-3M took over a year of FEA simulations and testing to reach perfection and is just as important as the motor to the resulting low distortion. We gave the suspension just as much attention as we would for a full blown high-stroke subwoofer. To finish off this masterpiece we tested several different types of woven carbon fiber cones & dust caps to achieve the best FR possible.
To finish off the 2025 SA speaker line we created the SA-6.5M and the SA-8M. Both of which can be used as a mid-bass or mid-range speaker depending on your application. Both drivers feature the same attention to detail as the 3M regarding the carbon cone and dust cap, surround, and spider. All of these parts were fully FEA simulated and Klippel verified.
The SA-6.5M features 5.9mm one-way linear excursion by 70% BL, 7mm by CMS, and 6.28mm by LE on Klippel. Thanks to the efficient motor venting and ample voice coil the power handling is rated for 110-watts full range / 200-watts with a 70hz HPF filter with a respectable 89dB sensitivity. As with the SA-1T this is a 4th generation SA speaker due to the SA component set from prior generations. For this iteration we optimized it further and also created a new custom-tooled frame. The revised frame is more aerodynamics and also allows for superior coil ventilation. As with most Sundown products you will find a thick magnet-ID Faraday ring as well.
Last, but absolutely not least, we have the SA-8M which takes linear stroke to yet another level. We were able to achieve 9mm one-way linear by 70% BL and nearly 10mm by CMS and LE standards. As with the 3M, the 8M features a pole sleeve and magnet ID faraday ring for LE treatment. This unit is an absolute powerhouse for mid-bass, and we believe it will make big waves in the SQ world. On the output side it has a 91.5dB sensitivity and will handle 130-watts full-range / 250-watts with a 70Hz HPF thanks to the efficient motor venting and huge 2" coil. The SA-8M is all-in on SQ and output potential – the Sundown way!
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★★★★★ 5
"There were these two guys in a lunatic asylum..."
Format: Hardcover
...and there names were Tim Burton and Christopher Nolan. These two directors used this classic comic as part of the inspiration for there respective representations of Batman on the silver screen. I fell Nolan's film is not only a over-all better movie but also the one which better captures what is so remarkable about "The Killing Joke"!
Let me make one thing perfectly clear: I am by no means an avid fan of comics. I respect the art form but it's very rarely appealed to me. Of the few comics that I've read the only ones I truly enjoyed were all written by Alan Moore: "The Killing Joke", "Watchmen", and "Miracleman #15: Nemesis" (thanks to someone posting all the pages for this rare and AMAZING issue on-line). I have read a bit of Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns" and Moore's "V for Vendetta". Despite some awesome moments I still think about ("A reflection" from TDKR and "This Vicious Cabaret" from VFV), I couldn't keep up with either of them. I own Art Spiegelman's "Maus" but I haven't had a chance to read it yet, though it sounds right up my alley. The reason for this background is that as a guy who's not a huge comic book fan, THIS COMIC RULES!!!
With less than 100 pages, Alan Moore does so many things: create a "definitive" (well, as much as can be done for a character who's past is "multiple choice") backstory for the Joker, suggest that Batman and Joker have far more in common than either character realizes, and create a mood of moral decay and uncertainly while not fully giving into that mood (though not enough to cancel it out). But the icing on the cake is how Moore is able to portray the Joker as an unredeemable monster, tormented philosopher, and a tragic human being all at the same time! A lot of Health Ledger's Joker is foreshadowed by Moore's Joker.
Of countless standout moments, there are two which deserve praise. The first is the Joker explain his world view to Batman, how life is a "monstrous demented gag". The words are so well-written and powerful, both because of there fundamental bleakness and the fact that the Joker is truly trying to explain his worldview to Batman. Perhaps hoping for some understanding or at least for proof that he's not alone in the madness. If you want to hear the brilliance of these words and the emotion, I recommend going to Youtube and listening to "Mark Hamill- The Killing Joke" by the Youtube user "Pgirts". A nearly spot-on mimicking of Mark Hamill's voice (the voice of the Joker from "Batman: the Animated Series"), music from the movie "Batman Returns" (a second movie made by the first of the "two guys in a lunatic asylum"), and the text combine to create something shocking weight.
The second is as fitting as it is shocking. In keeping with the title, this tale of insanity and despair ends on a joke. I won't dare spoil it because it is awesome on so many levels! But what I will do is end this review with the words of Moore's Rorschach from "Watchmen" about his Pagliacci joke: "Good joke. Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains."
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Reviewed in the United States on March 17, 2012
★★★★★ 5
greatest Batman stories
Format: Hardcover
The Killing Joke is an exceptional piece of literature. Just looking at the cover tells you almost immediately what you're in for (something something, don't judge book by it's cover), but even then it gives so much more. I knew going in that this was highly regarded by many as one of, if not the, greatest Batman stories. This graphic novel is rich with atmosphere and saturated in beautiful imagery.
What really sets it apart is how mature and well told the story is. The very first dialogue sets the scene for the whole book: what's going to happen between Batman and the Joker? They've been playing the same game for years and years, but when will it end, and how? Before now, we never had any reason to sympathize with the Joker. The Joker has always been an incredibly interesting and fun character, but the audience didn’t know what drove him, or even what drove him mad. Revealing his backstory is one-shot deal; you either please fans universally or lose all of their faith depending on how the story is told. But The Killing Joke nails it with flying colors.
Speaking of colors, The Killing Joke is rife with fantastic images and finely-crafted spectacles. Open it to any page, and you’ll find something iconic or stylistic. Every panel is given such a painstaking attention to detail, and that kind of dedication and consistency is one of the major selling points. These are the images that’ll stick with you well after you put the book down because of how they pop out of the page. When you see that first image of the Joker truly going mad, you feel it. It’s not “oh look the joker is laughing and totally losing his mind, sucks to be him golly gee,” it’s “That’s it! That’s the point of no return! He’s gone and I feel like I was right there next to him!” (Okay that was a little corny, I won’t do that again, promise). And that’s not the only one that sticks out: Joker in a hawaiian t-shirt holding a cocktail, Joker on a throne of baby dolls, Joker looking solemnly at an old broken carnival machine.
Now, you might’ve noticed a pattern there. “But where’s Batman?” Y’see, Batman has had thousands of comics, movies, books, and video games dedicated to his story and his experiences. We know his backstory as though it’s mythology. But until now, we didn’t know Joker. Batman even says so in the graphic novel. And now that the Joker’s finally gotten his spotlight, a true telling of his story, there’s no need to go any further. Sure, we could ask for more novels about Joker’s experiences, but this is the only one that needed to be about the Joker. This is the story about how his life got flip-turned upside down (sorry). All the ones after this one, he’s already insane and we don’t learn anything really new. But here we see it all through his eyes. It doesn’t need a sequel. In fact I hope it never gets a sequel. There’s nothing more to tell with this story, especially with how it ends. The Killing Joke is an exceptional piece of literature.
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Reviewed in the United States on September 1, 2017
★★★★★ 5
You only need 64 pages to tell an amazing story.
Format: Hardcover
Before reading The Killing Joke, I've ready V for Vendetta and Watchmen. Both are other graphic novels written by Alan Moore. I had no idea what to expect, but a friend of mine did call this (in his opinion) the greatest graphic novel of all time. I think it's damn near close to it.
The Good:
I love Batman. Doesn't matter where he is. Nolan movies? Arkham series? Comics? They're all awesome, so of course I was gonna love Batman in this story too. The joker is also a stand out character obviously. I hate to love the joker because he's that awesomely terrible. It's amazing. This story isn't so much about Batman fighting bad guys as it is about proving the joker wrong. "All it takes is one bad day." Well does it? Batman (and Gordon) are pushed to their limits as they not only try to stop the joker, but prove him wrong. By the end of the story, you wonder who TRULY won that night. I won't give any spoilers, but the ending does make you wonder. You see what I mean? It's psychologically complex and disturbing. It really makes worry about the outcome of ALL the characters. One thing I liked from another comic, Batman: Hush, was the use of other DC characters to progress the story, but I really liked how The Killing Joke told another amazing story with less character in less pages. I also really like that short story after the end of the main story. I'm glad it was there.
The Bad:
There really isn't all that much bad. I mean I would have loved for it to be longer, but I still enjoyed it for what it is. That's really my only complaint. It just a little too short, and I wanted to keep on reading.
Final Verdict:
I don't know if it's the greatest graphic novel of all time, but I loved it and I think everyone else who reads it will love it too. I mean I read the whole thing is one sitting in less than an hour. I literally could not put the book down. BUT! There's a lot of very disturbing moments in the story, so know what you're getting yourself into. I mean the animated movie adaption for this book is rated R!
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Reviewed in the United States on May 2, 2016
★★★★★ 5
Tycho Evaluates: "Batman: The Killing Joke"
Format: Hardcover
As a big fan of Batman as a character and the DC universe, I've always thought of The Joker as my favorite villain. He's a character I've long been obsessed over, there's a lot of fascinating elements about him that have impressed and captivated me, that began with the first time I saw The Dark Knight. Heath Ledgers portrayal of the character astounded me, and inspired me to research more on the history of the character and discover how it was created, and how he's been portrayed throughout the years. One name kept coming up during my search, Batman: The Killing Joke, cited as the quintessential comic featuring The Joker. So, I went online, purchased it and read it. And...it's one of the greatest things I've ever read. There's a quote on the front cover from Tim Burton, saying that its the first comic he ever loved. I agree with that on a lot of levels, as a person who hasn't read too many comic books, I can still tell what a masterpiece this one is. The atmosphere created by the illustrations of Brian Bolland, the writing and dialogue created by Alan Moore, really made me feel like I was watching a movie. That I was experiencing a living, fluid story centered around the actions and origin of The Joker. The balance they achieved between scenes without dialogue and scenes with conversations between characters is perfect, creating beautiful build up and suspense. From Batman walking into Arkham Asylum, to the shooting of Barbra Gordon, to the reveal of the comedian transformed into The Joker. Every page of this book carries so much, accomplishing something I didn't think was possible. Giving a concrete origin to The Joker, a character that's not supposed to have a past, to be utterly mysterious and detached. It works so well though, a failed comedian who has one really, really bad day. Ruining his life and reducing him to a deranged killer obsessed with the idea that life, reality, and the human condition are just a massive joke. There's two moments in this comic that stick out the most to me, one is the moment when the comedian is told his wife is dead. There's a panel where he says nothing, then simply replies with "What?". It truly captures a moment of absolute disbelief, how a man would react to the worst news imaginable, in that he would barely react at all. Then, there's the ending. Out of respect for the sheer brilliance of the conclusion, I wont spoil it here. To wrap up my ramblings, Batman: The Killing Joke is an incredible comic that serves as quite possibly the best story featuring The Clown Prince of Crime. I recommend it to anyone who is even a cursory fan of Batman, The Joker, dark comedy, or simply superb illustration and writing. Its definitely worth the read...and the laughs.
-Tycho
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Reviewed in the United States on August 13, 2015
★★★★★ 5
Great resource to refer to
Format: Paperback
I thought that I was just going to use it as a reference book but when I was reading it I was very interested and ended reading the whole thing. I learned a lot short cuts and tricks and tips. I still refer to the book all the time. Great investment for a reference.
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Reviewed in the United States on January 9, 2025